Comments on: A proposal for Enterprise Ireland http://coworking.ie/22/a-proposal-for-enterprise-ireland/#utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=a-proposal-for-enterprise-ireland collaboration, office space Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:38:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Matt Johnston http://coworking.ie/22/a-proposal-for-enterprise-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-42 Matt Johnston Mon, 16 Apr 2007 11:50:04 +0000 http://www.coworking.ie/a-proposal-for-enterprise-ireland/#comment-42 David, I know what you mean. My startups to date have grown from one single company and gained their own independence later. As a result we've used every method of "co-feeding" event o the point that some people from one startup will cover the phones for the other if there's a meeting. I like that kind of co-operation. David,
I know what you mean. My startups to date have grown from one single company and gained their own independence later. As a result we’ve used every method of “co-feeding” event o the point that some people from one startup will cover the phones for the other if there’s a meeting.

I like that kind of co-operation.

]]> By: David Copithorne http://coworking.ie/22/a-proposal-for-enterprise-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-41 David Copithorne Mon, 16 Apr 2007 10:42:12 +0000 http://www.coworking.ie/a-proposal-for-enterprise-ireland/#comment-41 Conor: Thanks for the update. My understanding of the funding for GEP was that CIT offered a 'scholarship' of around 6K (hence the requirement for a degree) and up to 50% (to a max of Eur38K) of your previous years wages was offered if you met certain EI criteria. As you know there has been a lot of talk lately about the lack of support for small tech companies and I suppose I was just highlighting some of the reasons why I wasn't pursuing one of the few available options. Having said that I didn't realise Rubicon offered hotdesking. Like you say, seems good value. Matt: The one startup that I've been involved with grew entirely within an existing (small) company and had a very symbiotic relationship until we physically moved out. So I think you've some great suggestions there.. Conor: Thanks for the update. My understanding of the funding for GEP was that CIT offered a ‘scholarship’ of around 6K (hence the requirement for a degree) and up to 50% (to a max of Eur38K) of your previous years wages was offered if you met certain EI criteria. As you know there has been a lot of talk lately about the lack of support for small tech companies and I suppose I was just highlighting some of the reasons why I wasn’t pursuing one of the few available options. Having said that I didn’t realise Rubicon offered hotdesking. Like you say, seems good value.

Matt: The one startup that I’ve been involved with grew entirely within an existing (small) company and had a very symbiotic relationship until we physically moved out. So I think you’ve some great suggestions there..

]]> By: Matt Johnston http://coworking.ie/22/a-proposal-for-enterprise-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-40 Matt Johnston Sat, 14 Apr 2007 17:27:25 +0000 http://www.coworking.ie/a-proposal-for-enterprise-ireland/#comment-40 there's lots of options for existing coworkig businesses to assist startups. Some we had toyed with: <b>Equity exchange</b> How about a small percentage of the company in return for housing and 'feeding' a startup <b>Quid Pro Quo</b> What do you do? Is it of use to the facility? Why not do a little green dollar work in order to pay the rent? <b>Internal Jobs</b> Preferential rates for other startups and co-working regstered companies and perhaps even work-for-hire to get your cash flow going <b>Other Services</b> Would you be willing to have a member of your founding group work on the reception of a co-working facility in return for getting workspace? Some people might balk at cleaning the loos there’s lots of options for existing coworkig businesses to assist startups.

Some we had toyed with:
Equity exchange How about a small percentage of the company in return for housing and ‘feeding’ a startup
Quid Pro Quo What do you do? Is it of use to the facility? Why not do a little green dollar work in order to pay the rent?
Internal Jobs Preferential rates for other startups and co-working regstered companies and perhaps even work-for-hire to get your cash flow going
Other Services Would you be willing to have a member of your founding group work on the reception of a co-working facility in return for getting workspace? Some people might balk at cleaning the loos

]]> By: Conor O'Neill http://coworking.ie/22/a-proposal-for-enterprise-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-39 Conor O'Neill Sat, 14 Apr 2007 15:54:57 +0000 http://www.coworking.ie/a-proposal-for-enterprise-ireland/#comment-39 Another important point is that the Rubicon has to self-fund, it does not get ongoing subsidies from EI or CIT. So the idea of freebies for start-ups can't work there. I did ask my EI Dev advisor about all available EI/IDA office space in the greater Cork area and was shocked to find that there is very little. Most space is non-office. I had images of thousands of square feet lying idle around the county but it appears this is not the case. Another important point is that the Rubicon has to self-fund, it does not get ongoing subsidies from EI or CIT. So the idea of freebies for start-ups can’t work there.

I did ask my EI Dev advisor about all available EI/IDA office space in the greater Cork area and was shocked to find that there is very little. Most space is non-office. I had images of thousands of square feet lying idle around the county but it appears this is not the case.

]]> By: Conor O'Neill http://coworking.ie/22/a-proposal-for-enterprise-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-38 Conor O'Neill Sat, 14 Apr 2007 15:51:01 +0000 http://www.coworking.ie/a-proposal-for-enterprise-ireland/#comment-38 Oh, I forgot to mention that the model for the hot-desks in Rubicon is this place in Macroom (http://www.macroom-e.com/services.htm). Paul himself used one of these and was highly impressed. I know Walter also thought highly of them. Oh, I forgot to mention that the model for the hot-desks in Rubicon is this place in Macroom (http://www.macroom-e.com/services.htm). Paul himself used one of these and was highly impressed. I know Walter also thought highly of them.

]]> By: Conor O'Neill http://coworking.ie/22/a-proposal-for-enterprise-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-37 Conor O'Neill Sat, 14 Apr 2007 15:48:53 +0000 http://www.coworking.ie/a-proposal-for-enterprise-ireland/#comment-37 I have a post to do on the Rubicon which is overdue by about two weeks. There are a few misconceptions about it which I shared with David until I talked to Paul Healy who runs it. The main one is that GEP is just one aspect of Rubicon. At heart it is a general incubation centre. Of the 80 seats in the current building, only 20 are for Genesis. They are just about to open a second building which will have 10 hot-desks (going to 20 if demand is there). From a co-working perspective the main drawback is that you have to book the desk a month at a time. However, they are only €220 per month all-in which is fantastic value for Model Farm Road. I'll write more on this when I get a chance as Paul is very interested in the Coworking concepts and is very interested in suggestions for both the new (actually old refurb) building and the upcoming extensions to the current building. I have a post to do on the Rubicon which is overdue by about two weeks. There are a few misconceptions about it which I shared with David until I talked to Paul Healy who runs it.

The main one is that GEP is just one aspect of Rubicon. At heart it is a general incubation centre. Of the 80 seats in the current building, only 20 are for Genesis.

They are just about to open a second building which will have 10 hot-desks (going to 20 if demand is there). From a co-working perspective the main drawback is that you have to book the desk a month at a time. However, they are only €220 per month all-in which is fantastic value for Model Farm Road.

I’ll write more on this when I get a chance as Paul is very interested in the Coworking concepts and is very interested in suggestions for both the new (actually old refurb) building and the upcoming extensions to the current building.

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